Our Sen. David Vitter felt the need to email his constituents March 26 at 11:21 a.m. to let us know his valiant stand against “Free Cell Phones for Welfare Recipients.”
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COMMENTS as of 1000 CT, Tuesday, 02 April 2013:
1) Comment by Corvette Racer - 04/02/2013
OBAMAPHONE!!!!
2) Comment by wherearewegoing - 04/01/2013
As a matter of fact, Suzanne, the website YOU referenced even discusses those that receive lifeline for free.
3) Comment by wherearewegoing - 04/01/2013
@Suzanne: I never said "riddled with fraud"...the article you foolishly commented on said "riddled with fraud". And since I'm apparently implying that everyone with these phones is on welfare and isn't working (I don't think I implied that, but I do believe that it is true in the vast majority of cases....do you agree?) then you were implying that these phones are, in some cases, free. You said "Lifeline is not necessarily free." Implying that it isn't always free, but sometimes...?
4) Comment by SuzanneMS - 04/01/2013
wherearewegoing, where in your comment did you use the terms "riddled with fraud?" You claimed that the program is free, and you were wrong. You also implied that everyone who is on Lifeline is on welfare and is not working. Wrong again. tradewinns, certainly fraud should be dealt with. That does not mean that the program should be abandoned or that there is not a need for it. I qualified for a Lifeline discount -- discount, not a free phone -- when I was a graduate student, working part time and going to school full time. I guess that makes me a useless, fraudulent drain on society.
5) Comment by DMJ - 04/01/2013
Host, you keep asking that inane, asinine question. And since you don't get the answer you want, which is "It depends on the circumstances," why don't you just tell us the answer you want to hear and then next time you feel the need to ask that question again, just answer yourself and spare the rest of us? Once again... how much is enough? It depends, bub. Obviously. As if there could be an exact figure for such a question.
6) Comment by CountryBoysCanSurvive - 04/01/2013
wow the advocate brown shirts had to stretch to give me a Terms of Use violation. All I said was free phones should be limited to 911 calls and 10 of non essential calls. I see people use initials to describe words all the time. Why single me out? Perhaps I need to complain to upper management again.
7) Comment by The_Host - 04/01/2013
I am still waiting for the GimmeDats to let us that PayforDat know exactly how much money they will need to make everything okay in their eyes? Why can no one who is in favor of all the freebies come up with a clear number for how much the people paying should be on the hook for to give those that are takers in society. Exactly what will be ENOUGH and when will we get there? It appears at this moment we will get there when all of us are on the freebie list. But then do tell who will pay for it all when that happens? Is there anything that 1/2 of society shouldn't be forced to pay for on the behalf of the other 1/2 of society? Where do we draw the line of giving away freebies at the expense of people that have absolutely no say in whether they pay for it or not? WHERE!
8) Comment by On_The_Fence - 04/01/2013
Here's the real problem - I know a man who gets a "free" cellm phone anytime he wants one. Problem is, he can't figure out how to use it. The phones do not come with instruction nor or any offered---just sign here. He's frustrated, goes back to th enice folks giving the phones away and gets no help at all. He has several phones without even an instruction manual (if he could read!) Amazing waste of funds!
9) Comment by Whatnow - 04/01/2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53ayQquO-Dw
10) Comment by phil - 04/01/2013
"The Lifeline Assistance program is available for only one wireless or wireline account per household. Separate households that live at the same address are eligible, including residents of homeless shelters and nursing homes, for example. Residents with temporary addresses are also eligible." - There seems to be a loophole in the law to me.
11) Comment by phil - 04/01/2013
True somewhat , but poor people can also qualify for free basic land line phone service so they really should not be able to qualify for both in my opinion. Just one or the other. I have never owned a cell phone because it is too expensive for me combined with other expenses including my land line phone service. Problem is too much free makes people think they should get everything for free like free Obamacare etc etc. I imagine some poor person will complain that they do not have a smart phone to track the CATS buses with the new GPS system, so someone will probably sue the government for being treated unfairly. How do I get on that get-it-free list before I go broke paying taxes for all of that "free" stuff? No wonder we (the federal government) are $16 TRILLION in debt.
12) Comment by tradewinns - 04/01/2013
the phone should be a land line only and the law already mandates 9-1-1 calls must function even if you do not have phone service. and suzanneMS perhaps you missed the expose' on the major networks a few months back where they interviewed folks who had the free cell phones. I say phones with the s because everyone they talked to had 5 or more the largest had 15. they were bragging about how many they had and how it took less than 5 minutes to get another one. no this wasn't fox news it was one of the big 3. I've forgotten which one as its been awhile. I don't care what type of program you develop the useless will find a way to abuse it and they know from experience that no one will do anything to either stop them or punish them. then some folks wonder why others get so disgusted with our various govt. programs.
13) Comment by CountryBoysCanSurvive - 04/01/2013
****Comment Removed for Violation of Terms of Use****
14) Comment by wherearewegoing - 04/01/2013
@SuzanneMS: "riddled with fraud" Did you miss that part? Because that was a "fact." It doesn't matter how the system is designed when people know how to bend the rules and cheat (also read "steal") the taxpayers. Next time try harder to understand what you're reading instead of commenting just criticizing others that you disagree with. What happened to civilized debate in this country? (Both sides are guilty)
15) Comment by DMJ - 04/01/2013
"Filled with hate" is right, SuzanneMS. And Vitter, being the type of person he is, is their perfect representative.
16) Comment by SuzanneMS - 04/01/2013
Wrong, again. You people are so filled with hate; it must be painful to be you. What you "feel" is not relevant; the facts are. Lifeline is not necessarily free. It is a discounted service for most. It can be used on either a landline or a cell phone, and is restricted to one service per household. http://www.fcc.gov/guides/lifeline-and-link-affordable-telephone-service-income-eligible-consumers
17) Comment by tradewinns - 04/01/2013
what!! you expect the useless to do anything to earn the right to have everything? the poor are and will destroy this country. the "free cell phone" program cost the US taxpayer over $1 BILLION a year (I've heard it's more but this was an "official" figure) a program which started as a safety item (call for help at home) and cost less than $400K a year nationwide has ballooned to over a $billion and is no longer a home phone for emergencies but now available to call friends and family. taxpayers have to pay for that right isn't that wonderful!
18) Comment by wherearewegoing - 04/01/2013
@rgeraldwallace: "when is the last time somebody on welfare used a phone to get off welfare?" You forgot the word "free" in there, but other than that you nailed it! I'm sure it is very rare to find someone on welfare or state/federal support that got off of it because of their free, taxpayer supplied cell phone.
19) Comment by jdk944 - 04/01/2013
Mr. Madden, Senator Vitter's email referenced moving the program back to the original idea of Landlines for this NOT cell phones. This would still allow those to be able to stay in touch with those parties you some "dramatically" point out in your letter. And money collected from us Taxpayers are where the money comes from!!! In addition, is it possible that the Main Stream Media and the Obama Administration want those who don't do their own research to believe this IS Obama's program?? Afterall, the Main Stream are the ones putting this on the news and I haven't seen any rebuttal of it from Carney etc.!!
20) Comment by rgeraldwallace@cox.net - 04/01/2013
Madden is putting out propaganda; when is the last time somebody on welfare used a phone to get off welfare? Welfare rolls and food stamps are at an all time high, not decreasing because of free cell phones.
21) Comment by agagent - 04/01/2013
"The FCC implemented anti-fraud measures earlier this year, requiring subscribers to prove their eligibility, canceling service if the phone is not used for 60 days, and preventing individuals from having multiple phones. The agency says it canceled 800,000 duplicate contracts and expects to save $200 million this year. Lifeline "wreaks havoc" in the competitive market, according to Roger Entner, the founder of Recon Analytics, a wireless industry research and consulting firm. Carriers targeting the prepaid market -- one of the industry's fastest-growing segments -- can't compete with free phones."-cnn money. Maybe some attention has done some good
22) Comment by agagent - 04/01/2013
"Democrats have also challenged Lifeline's excesses. Senator Claire McCaskill, from Missouri, drew attention last year to Lifeline's minimal oversight after receiving a flyer at home inviting her to get a free cell phone. (With an annual Senate salary of $174,000, McCaskill isn't exactly the target market.)"-cnn money About the Obamaphone program
23) Comment by CountryBoysCanSurvive - 04/01/2013
"Everyone who is struggling is at fault for their own struggles" I feel that in 98% of the cases this is indeed a fact. You have to go back to their childhood. Did they follow societies rules? Did they go to school? Did they study? Did they stay off of the streets and drugs? Did they actively seek a job? Did they not have illegitimate babies? Or were they content to sit on their butt and wait for the taxpayers to raise them and then cry about how bad it is?
24) Comment by postscript56 - 04/01/2013
Vitter's position is typical of conservatives. Everyone who is struggling is at fault for their own struggles. Therefore the rest of us have no obligation to that lazy "taker" and anything we do for that person is evil welfare. Why is anyone suprised when conservatives act like this? This belief forms the basis for modern conservative "thought."
25) Comment by Bighug - 04/01/2013
Weren't Medicaid, the food stamp program, and unemployment pay all started by Obama? That seems to be what my Tea Party friends claim.
